Comments on: 8 People Palm Poached To Make The Pre

By: krosref

krosref — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:07:46 +0000

come on dude. that makes no sense. have you any idea how saturated that hq is with towers and repeaters. did you buy a piece of shit phone and abuse it and still expect it to perform as intended?

if you don’t like sprint, that’s fine. you’re allowed to like or not like whatever you please. but don’t fabricate reasons, especially absurd ones.

By: David Kaye

Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:58:02 +0000

I’ve worked with Wes Yun before. He is a super talented designer (and a generally great guy).

By: LBJ

LBJ — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:37:33 +0000

LOL. Too bad that webos is DOA.

By: dave

dave — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 11:27:42 +0000

dude, you weren’t supposed to tell anybody that – i was trying to rig you for a hire as pike’s protege at elgoog …now they’re just gonna hire you in some kinda qa role ;)

By: Chad

Chad — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 06:53:47 +0000

quite the complement. I love when people complement me by ripping out my co-workers – much less the person that signs my paycheck… cmon bud

By: Taus

Taus — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 02:02:53 +0000

You guys totally missed Matt Kern (@lightcap), one of the lead developers that was a critical in shifting the strategy towards WebOS (HTML, CSS and JavaScript), built much of the OS and the mail client.

By: AS147

AS147 — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:54:28 +0000

A famous person once said to imitate is great but to copy is genious!

By: greg

greg — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:03:48 +0000

The fanboys don’t understand that, or if a couple of them do they don’t want to listen

By: UNCLE BERNIE

UNCLE BERNIE — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 00:36:33 +0000

PRE IS BORING. THEY HAD TO POACH EVERYTHING. RE: ITUNES SYNC

By: UNCLE BERNIE

UNCLE BERNIE — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 00:33:41 +0000

NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU THINK OR WHAT YOU USE

By: peezy

peezy — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 22:48:50 +0000

I’m glad they hired these people because now I have a Pre in my pocket!!!

By: WulfCry

WulfCry — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 22:43:12 +0000

I don’t understand what are you trying to assume , This team of newbies get Big Money for a job well done, What old Palm could not do without acquiring fresh new idea’s, Which is so obvious by the way even the Japanese knew a good and better copy gives market value , But no stubborn as they where it was all kept just with little innovation steps.

The market wants video we do video a little better.
The market wants mp3 we do it a little better.
The market wants push email lets excel this up.
Innovation comes from getting it not following small steps.

Welcome to your wake up call Palm don’t forget this lesson the next time you fall asleep again.

By: Travis

Travis — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 22:27:00 +0000

Hah, actually yeah I was just an intern at Be. Was a hell of a lot of fun!

By: Tim Abbott

Tim Abbott — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 18:21:41 +0000

Can we get some international GSM love with all these phones. Sprint sucks and our company is in Sprint land (Kansas). I used to live next to the international headquarters and still got dropped calls, go figure :).

By: man

man — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:33:17 +0000

Seem to me that the Pre interesting advantage is the multiple app situation, which several apps run at the same time, while in apple only one run at the same time (except iTunes). I’m pretty sure this is dependent on the capacity of the CPU and Memory. I hope Pre hardware is stronger than iPhone otherwise it will be very slow. On the other hand apple could always put more muscle inside the iPhone and make it support a few apps at the same time.

All in all Palm was the leader in this industry and now its not. It let Blackberry take over and later iPhone. I don’t think the Pre will make much difference.

By: Logan

Logan — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:14:42 +0000

Now this article is gold… original & a bit in-depth
Kudos to Greg Kumparak for writing this!!

It particularly shines because of all the junk the Techcrunch has been turning out lately.

By: m3tric

m3tric — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:31:13 +0000

Amen brother. These sheep are so blinded, from sitting on Jobs’ johnson the past 5 years.

Oh well, I enjoy these drones walking around mindlessly with their underspecced, and locked down OS. Makes my cell seem that much better when I show them what it can do.

By: Screen Sleuth

Screen Sleuth — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 15:59:35 +0000

Getting smart people with experience is how many companies build up from ashes.

By: dave

dave — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 15:25:25 +0000

would this explain why all mba students are still using the hp12c from the 80’s??? ;)

By: dave

dave — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 15:24:29 +0000

i completely hear you – and that was definitely an overstatement (!) – props to all of the beOS folks who worked on this – but of course, as i understand from apple sources involved when hancock was reviewing beOS, it simply still didn’t live in what apple felt was the ‘real world’ and so got pushed aside in light of bsd…

By: Robert

Robert — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 15:16:33 +0000

Have a iMac, like it, but don’t worship it, I will buy another for my next computer (go figure). Have iPod, great device; practically perfect.

Just bought Pre. Fantastic. If iPhone had been with Sprint, I’d have an iPhone, but all this exclusivity with carriers hurts consumers. I can’t afford to cancel 4 lines. Having played with an iPhone, and now using a Pre, I see no reason to have iPhone envy. The Pre does everything I need it to do (and things I didn’t know I even wanted it to do!). Great job!

I also see the wisdom in Sprint/Palm’s low key marketing. The Pre is easy to use, but being capable of doing more than any other phone, requires a little training (not that much). They don’t need people walking around complaining that no one told them they can’t have long finger nails and type on a Pre or making any other complaints. Instead, they “screen” people to see if this is a device they will need, teach them to use it and send away a happy customer who will be able to show off the product to others. A 30 second spot with cool graphics and music can’t do that. Word of mouth can. Brilliant!

I am one happy Pre user/Sprint customer. (Sprint might be the smallest, but I have NEVER had a problem getting assistance from them. Polite and helpful. The Pre isn’t why you should switch. Sprint service is the reason. (Admittedly I’ve had no experience with any other carrier other than listen to friends complain about ATT).

By: AS147

AS147 — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:54:45 +0000

“In the case of development it is either or”

So programmers only know one language ! C’mon buddy you know better than that!

Before the Apple SDK came out there was no real knowledge on how to develop for the iPhone.

There are programmers out there (and I know a few) that look to these platforms and choose several, especially when the lure of reusing skills they already have is a big draw. So WebOS usings basic web skills that almost all developers have is going to be a draw.

Also apparently there are 7-8 million Palm owners. Don’t you think at least a portion of these will buy the Pre? Add to that the folk who need a keyboard device, don’t like Windoze mobile or BB and you can easily see 5million users within two years. Then you have the non smart phone users and that within a year there will be many WebOS apps (heard of Pre Dev Camps?)

Add to that the fact that Reuters (or one of the big writers out there) mentioned this morning that half of those in line at the Flatiron Sprint store buying the Pre were iPhone owners (yes that was a real surprise to me and may not be representative) suggest there are lots of tech geeks out there willing to just swap around.

Lastly, it is obvious that Palm have several other WebOS phones in the pipeline. So 6-7 million phones in 2 years is not inconceivable.

So with all that going on (excluding any unforseen disasters) do you really think Palm aren’t going to make it on their own?

By: Gary Gendel

Gary Gendel — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:09:57 +0000

Basically, I take a few notes from this article:

1) It’s business as usual in the high-tech world in CA. Surprise, surprise! This has been going on since the birth of the integrated circuit revolution with Fairchild.

2) Palm had the foresight to realize that the only way to produce something spectacular was to pull together a bunch of experts in the field.

3) It was successful at pulling some real talent.

Not bad for a company that was near the end of it’s life.

As a side note, Apple is part of a recent anti-trust investigation specifically because they illegally prevent others from hiring away their talent.

If talent isn’t free to move around, then there would not have been a Silicon Valley and we would all still be working on 4 function calculators.

By: BlobReader

BlobReader — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:30:27 +0000

WOW blog bigoted much? Don’t hold back your hatred now,we wouldn’t want to acknowledge that some people(phones) are as good as others.You would rather KILL those that have a diferent vision then you do. What a swell guy you are blog!! You deserve A$$hole of the year award!! Sorry Steve Blog earned it this year

By: Michael is short

Michael is short — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:21:46 +0000

DAMN iphone keyboard I need a Pre too.