Comments on: Review: Nokia N97 – So close, yet so very, very far.

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By: gus

gus — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:34:06 +0000

Typical iphone fanboy review like 90% of all the other amatuer biased blog reviewers. I have a N97 and it’s excellent. The only thing I would say is you got to put Opera Mini on it for a browser since that’s the best mobile browser out there. In the Telco industry the common saying is “iphones are for girls and gays’.

By: ounkeo

ounkeo — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:43:01 +0000

I have an E90 and I would not trade it for an iPhone (I’ve used the iPhone). You get phones like the E90 for pure productivity. iPhone are for media consumption.

There’s no comparison atm that E90 QWERTY is superior to anything out there. You’re the ONLY person that has said otherwise. Your problem is you bought a full on top of the line business phone and traded it for a second rate business phone that’s pretty; meaning you completely bought the wrong product from the sounds of it.

In terms of business phones, nothing touches the E90 as an overall productivity phone, even now.

It’s great that you like the iPhone but what you were looking for was a basic productivity device with heavy media cunsumption capabilities; something the E90 is completely counter of.

Even in terms of usability of input, you can use the E90 in both 2hand (dektop) position AND as a 1-handed device. It’s the true road warrior’s phone. Try and input into touch screen with one hand and it’s beyond clunky. It can be done but it’s clunky. Now try and input with one hand on a touchscreen while in transit.

I have an E71 as well and as good as that phone is, it’s still not as “functional” as the E90..well it is sexier. And the iPhone, sexy it may be, simply cannot deliver the power that an E90 (or even E71) can.

Iphone’s direct competitor are the N series. Making any comparison between an E series and an iPhone is going to hurt the iPhone quite a bit.

By: Chinaren

Chinaren — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:20:49 +0000

I’ve read plenty of reviews for this one, and it seems that the hardware is fine, but it’s the OS that sucks(ish).

I’ve considered it, and I think I’m still going for the N97. I’m sure the OS will improve with updates, and it has everything I need. (and at least you can replace the battery yourself!) I tend to run various apps all at once, which the iPhone doesn’t do. (Though I like the screen).

The phone market in the US and everywhere else is very different, so those within the US tend to have a totally different view of phones.

By: TW

TW — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:41:20 +0000

I actually told them exactly what kind of phone I had last time — it fit my definition of a smartphone, but not theirs, since it wasn’t sold by AT&T as such (or at all, for that matter – this was a N95-3).
As for this being ‘illegal’ — now it is my turn to call BS and your turn to provide a link. Which law is this breaking?

By: EB

EB — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:16:42 +0000

@TW
As I said, fake figures. If you lie to AT&T and don’t tell them you have a smart phone but just a feature phone with 3G, they will give you the $15 plan. Of course, once you move it into the 3G data phone, or you start actually USING some data and they notice the bandwidth you are taking, they may or may not catch you, but what you are doing is illegal.

Yes, AT&T has a $15 3G plan. But it is NOT a smartphone plan, so what you are doing is illegal (if caught)

By: TW

TW — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:07:29 +0000

Not sure I can really help you if your googling/search skills are that crap. There are tons of info on this out there, on HowardForums.com and other places.
Call AT&T and tell them you want a data plan for a unlocked phone, and you’ll get the $15/month — though as always you may have to eal with some clueless customer reps first.. I’ve been on the $15/month unlimited data plan for years, been on 3G for the past 2 years (yes, there were 3G phones on the US market before the iPhone 3G…). It is pretty much the one good deal you can get on cellular plans here in the US.
A friend of mine just got the $15/month plan for his (unlocked) phone on AT&T, so it’s not just a grandfathered-in thing either.

By: EB

EB — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:19:33 +0000

@TW, anyone can throw out fake figures.
I have looked everywhere, for months, up down left right for a data plan for less than $30 on AT&T that is unlimited. I call bullshit. If you want to make such outlandish claims as 3G data being $15 a month on AT&T for unlocked phones, you MUST supply some kind of link or information pointing us to it. Otherwise you are just making it up…

By: TW

TW — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:34:43 +0000

3G data is $15/month on AT&T for an unlocked phone. Which means the iPhone winds up costing 24 * $15 = $360 more in data plan costs over the course of a standard 2-year contract. I’m always amazed that so few people are able to work that out….

By: Suhas Kulkarni

Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:36:10 +0000

I agree with most of the comments made yb Greg ,

He even stole my words …. ( ” it sucks”).

Need i say any more ?

I am HUGELY disappointed by Nokia .

In teh rush to meet expectation in the “touch phone ” market segment they missed out on their most promising note . Nokia signifies robustness and confidence … this model am sure does not come out of the nokia stable …

There’s something Missing …..

–Suhas

By: Max

Max — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:20:45 +0000

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By: Tom Jones

Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:42:36 +0000

The form factor is an issue for me..

By: bcostoa

bcostoa — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:33:33 +0000

Sadly your review is correct. There’s a serious lack of unity and continuity in the S60 user interface and applications. The iPhone raised the bar and although they would’ve previously passed, today they just come up a little too short. I love my E61i, it’s a great piece of hardware but some of the UI inconsistencies and of software faults are just beyond words. Here’s hoping Nokia pulls things together.

Really good review.

By: Intosh

Intosh — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:17:58 +0000

Here, did the work for you:

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/06/12/nokia-n97-review/comment-page-6/#comment-532598

By: Matt Burns Weed

Matt Burns Weed — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:58:39 +0000

I just came back from the future and ironically your review of the N97 is almost identical to the reviews for the forthcomming crunchpad. Sorry to break the hearts of all the TC fan boys, but if you think the N97 is a let down, the crunchpad makes it look like a true Jesus phone. Don’t worry though, it turns out that the crunchpad makes an excellent doorstop.

By: Trance

Trance — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:02:49 +0000

Nice review!

This handset is just ‘passé composé’

It seems that Nokia does not want to innovate a bit with their handset..

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:17:31 +0000

The N97 is a bit of a hit or miss for people. Personally I think I’ll stick with my 5800 for now as there isn’t enough to justify moving to the N97. Nokia seem to be suffocating because they’ve grown too big and have layers of unnecessary bureaucracy that stifles innovation. That said, I expect them to come good in the long run and our friends in the US would do well to remember that Nokia demolish everyone else in the smartphone market – the 5800 outsells the iPhone in every market outside the US, for example because it’s cheap, has awesome features and is a brilliant music phone. Those saying that Nokia are doomed don’t really have a grip on reality, I’m afraid.

As an aside, I tried an iPhone 3G for a while and found the lack of haptic feedback really irritating. The capacitive touchscreen is nice but to be honest I don’t find it much better than a good resistive screen. Great phone though, just didn’t work for me.

Looking forward to the HTC Hero. That looks awesome.

By: Red

Red — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:26:41 +0000

Ok, the analogy of “It’s like finding the girl of your dreams, taking her home, and realizing she has a tattoo of Bill O’Reilly on her back.” is perfect – there’s laser removal, just as Nokia has firmware updates. As with all of Nokia’s (and many other manufacturers’) flagship phones, they are never perfect at point of release. Phone manufacturers never rely on flagship phones as their bread and butter – it’s just a way of showing off.

Saying that, I’m a user of a Nokia 5800, which still isn’t perfect, but is very usable and has improved with firmware updates (can’t wait for the v31 fw – which is where the phone will really take off).

I’d like to see the phone re-reviewed in 12 months time and see the improvement.

By: Red

Red — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:16:26 +0000

One of the major advantages of the n97’s OS is OTA firmware updating – it doesn’t even need to be in the same room as a pc.

By: Lee

Lee — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:47:20 +0000

Funny review, love the O’Reilly tattoo analogy… As a smartphone fan who owns both Nokia and Apple phones, yes Nokia has dropped the ball here. My E71 is a great phone, arguably the pinnacle of Nokia non-touch business-oriented phone development. Great build quality, excellent multitasking, very responsive, and a battery that lasts forever.

By contrast, I tried the 5800 at a store, and it felt distinctly underpowered. From the sound of the N97, this trend has continued. It appears that S60 5th edition requires more processing power to handle touch and other new features, but Nokia has not upgraded the processors to suit it. For a $700 unlocked phone, I am also surprised that the N97 doesn’t include a dedicated graphics processor of any sort, and even requires users to buy a separate TV-out cable. The N95 (which I also own) included both of those things.

In short, if Nokia wants to stay in the smartphone game as a leader, they need to do these things:
- Massively overhaul S60 (particularly the interface and developer’s tools), or replace it with another OS
- Nokia, stop skimping on your flagship phones! A phone like the N97 must have serious WOW factor. You make these things to impress, not to maximize your profit. Those are what your 100 other cheaper phone models are for. If I pay $700 for an unlocked phone, I want EVERY top-notch hardware feature you can throw at it. The best camera, processor, battery, etc…

By: Techno

Techno — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:08:42 +0000

EXCELLENT Greg

By: Abdul Qabiz

Abdul Qabiz — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:56:13 +0000

It seems, you missed talking about the memory, how less it is. Only 30 MB you get out of 70MB which is taken by OS.

I am not talking about mass storage in there.

It’s user-interface is primitive, looks like I can design better, I am not designer btw!.

I am long time Nokia user and hacker, but I am disappointed with N97. It sucks.

By: mark

mark — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:30:26 +0000

You such an apple fanboy. The N97 is really a great phone. You just nuts.

By: Cam

Cam — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:47:42 +0000

I really enjoyed this review. The Bill O’Reilly analogy was quite funny.

I have to say I lost faith in Nokia when I bought an N70. The OS was the number one bug for me.

It’s interesting to note that here in Indonesia five years ago, I could ask my students what kind of phone they had and 9 out of 10 would have had a Nokia. Now it’s very different. There’s a lot more variety including some Chinese phones.

I have to say though, that I think companies hold on to resistive touch screens because of sales in areas that don’t use the Latin alphabet. Cambodia, China, Taiwan, Thailand. Even here in Indonesia where the Latin alphabet is used, I’ve only seen two iphones and one itouch.

Competition is good for us. In this case, we should expect better and better smartphones in the coming years. I look forward to it!

By: iphone sux

iphone sux — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:41:39 +0000

I agree Nokia is floundering in the smart phone market and as forever their phones are hit and miss but the The E71(x) and E72 will keep them going for the foreseeable future.

We’ll have to see how the N97 pans out and what’s next of course in the touch screen line.