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	<title>Comments on: Verizon&#8217;s own app store to launch too late and for no good reason</title>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="704807817">Jared Tracy</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/13/verizons-own-app-store-to-launch-too-late-and-for-no-good-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-451732</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="704807817">Jared Tracy</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apps that have to stick to the narrow confines of the Verizon OS will be sub par at best. Verizon needs to focus on having a strong network open to Android. I&#039;ve been with Verizon for more than 7 years. That won&#039;t continue if they fail to provide better phones with better operating systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apps that have to stick to the narrow confines of the Verizon OS will be sub par at best. Verizon needs to focus on having a strong network open to Android. I&#8217;ve been with Verizon for more than 7 years. That won&#8217;t continue if they fail to provide better phones with better operating systems.</p>
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		<title>By: WittleWamb</title>
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		<dc:creator>WittleWamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Verizon: I&#039;ve been a customer for 11 years. Why? Because your network works better than most and I do not travel internationally much. 

You need to stop thinking you are a walled garden, as me and 40 million of your customers are thinking of leaving you so we can go have fun with the iPhone. The only thing holding me back are the horror stories of the AT&amp;T network... but the minute that is fixed - I&#039;m outta here.

Consider this some really cheap customer research. A million expensive BREW apps are not going to save you...

650.xxx.xxxx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Verizon: I&#8217;ve been a customer for 11 years. Why? Because your network works better than most and I do not travel internationally much. </p>
<p>You need to stop thinking you are a walled garden, as me and 40 million of your customers are thinking of leaving you so we can go have fun with the iPhone. The only thing holding me back are the horror stories of the AT&amp;T network&#8230; but the minute that is fixed &#8211; I&#8217;m outta here.</p>
<p>Consider this some really cheap customer research. A million expensive BREW apps are not going to save you&#8230;</p>
<p>650.xxx.xxxx</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Scott, GetJar</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/13/verizons-own-app-store-to-launch-too-late-and-for-no-good-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-444957</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Scott, GetJar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author isn&#039;t being particularly objective or insightful here.  Carriers, OEM&#039;s, and other mobile players launch app stores for various reasons.  

For some, it&#039;s really about being #1 distributing apps, about having the most developers.  For others, it&#039;s more modestly about filling a gap in their offering, so when Joe Consumer walks into Radio Shack and before buying a phone asks &quot;You guys got apps to go with this?&quot; the salesgirl can reasonable say &quot;Yup, we sure do.&quot; and so she closes the deal.  App stores sometimes are offensive moves, and sometimes they are very valid defensive moves.  

Apps as a retail model are early in their evolution.  In some cases (e.g. 3, SonyEricsson) an in-house app store is launched, not with the intent to recruit every developer on the planet, but to recruit only a select few for a specific boutique store that enhances the value of some other service.  Sometimes these stores are augmented by 3rd parties, in an &quot;app mall&quot;, sometimes not.  

Blackberry, LG, Microsoft, Palm, Apple, and others continue to experiment with new merchandising, on device experiences, geographical emphasis, payments options, etc, as do we at GetJar (which we believe, by volume, is #2 only to Apple.)

Eventually, the apps business may be as complex as any physical retail business, with specialists, mass market horizontal plays, boutiques, etc. all existing happily in parallel.  Complexity is likely, since with apps, we are opening up the business from a reliance the totally on paid content of the  Handango/carrier deck model, to many new free content business models, which themselves require innovative technical and marketing distribution solutions.  

The handset world is a fragmented world.  It&#039;s likely that the app store world will be fragmented too.  This is a new challenge for retailers.  

We should thank Verizon for their work, even if it&#039;s only an experiment, a defensive play, given the resources they&#039;ve committed to it, and given the insight that their success, or failure, will lend to the apps community.

To judge every app store, every app strategy, by one standard is to miss the complex evolution of this new retail business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author isn&#8217;t being particularly objective or insightful here.  Carriers, OEM&#8217;s, and other mobile players launch app stores for various reasons.  </p>
<p>For some, it&#8217;s really about being #1 distributing apps, about having the most developers.  For others, it&#8217;s more modestly about filling a gap in their offering, so when Joe Consumer walks into Radio Shack and before buying a phone asks &#8220;You guys got apps to go with this?&#8221; the salesgirl can reasonable say &#8220;Yup, we sure do.&#8221; and so she closes the deal.  App stores sometimes are offensive moves, and sometimes they are very valid defensive moves.  </p>
<p>Apps as a retail model are early in their evolution.  In some cases (e.g. 3, SonyEricsson) an in-house app store is launched, not with the intent to recruit every developer on the planet, but to recruit only a select few for a specific boutique store that enhances the value of some other service.  Sometimes these stores are augmented by 3rd parties, in an &#8220;app mall&#8221;, sometimes not.  </p>
<p>Blackberry, LG, Microsoft, Palm, Apple, and others continue to experiment with new merchandising, on device experiences, geographical emphasis, payments options, etc, as do we at GetJar (which we believe, by volume, is #2 only to Apple.)</p>
<p>Eventually, the apps business may be as complex as any physical retail business, with specialists, mass market horizontal plays, boutiques, etc. all existing happily in parallel.  Complexity is likely, since with apps, we are opening up the business from a reliance the totally on paid content of the  Handango/carrier deck model, to many new free content business models, which themselves require innovative technical and marketing distribution solutions.  </p>
<p>The handset world is a fragmented world.  It&#8217;s likely that the app store world will be fragmented too.  This is a new challenge for retailers.  </p>
<p>We should thank Verizon for their work, even if it&#8217;s only an experiment, a defensive play, given the resources they&#8217;ve committed to it, and given the insight that their success, or failure, will lend to the apps community.</p>
<p>To judge every app store, every app strategy, by one standard is to miss the complex evolution of this new retail business.</p>
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		<title>By: Steffen Frost</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/13/verizons-own-app-store-to-launch-too-late-and-for-no-good-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-444934</link>
		<dc:creator>Steffen Frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All those people on the Verizon network don&#039;t know what they are missing with the iPhone, so it is a good idea to offer apps to them.  Party like it&#039;s 1999 Verizon!

Oh, and good luck finding those developers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All those people on the Verizon network don&#8217;t know what they are missing with the iPhone, so it is a good idea to offer apps to them.  Party like it&#8217;s 1999 Verizon!</p>
<p>Oh, and good luck finding those developers.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/13/verizons-own-app-store-to-launch-too-late-and-for-no-good-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-444913</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>laughable. VZW is a complete joke of a carrier.
Of course, they will likely remind you of their massive market share, blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda.
It&#039;s irrelevant if you start driving your customers away when their friends are showing them how their non-VZW carrier doesn&#039;t interfere where you don&#039;t want it.

Seriously carriers: data, voice, sms. That&#039;s all we ever want from you. You are boring ugly carriers with a track record for lack of ingenuity and poorly executed product ideas, do the basics, the world will do the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>laughable. VZW is a complete joke of a carrier.<br />
Of course, they will likely remind you of their massive market share, blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda.<br />
It&#8217;s irrelevant if you start driving your customers away when their friends are showing them how their non-VZW carrier doesn&#8217;t interfere where you don&#8217;t want it.</p>
<p>Seriously carriers: data, voice, sms. That&#8217;s all we ever want from you. You are boring ugly carriers with a track record for lack of ingenuity and poorly executed product ideas, do the basics, the world will do the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/13/verizons-own-app-store-to-launch-too-late-and-for-no-good-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-444912</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well hey, who *doesn&#039;t* want a tip calculator from VZW store for only $2.99/mo?

Seriously.  Have the Verizon people not been watching the smartphone market AT ALL?  This has to be the most tone-deaf thing I&#039;ve seen a carrier do since AT&amp;T said they won&#039;t have MMS ready for the iPhone because of their own database ineptitude.

Multiple devices and OS&#039;es supported by one app store will be the most fragmented and useless POS ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well hey, who *doesn&#8217;t* want a tip calculator from VZW store for only $2.99/mo?</p>
<p>Seriously.  Have the Verizon people not been watching the smartphone market AT ALL?  This has to be the most tone-deaf thing I&#8217;ve seen a carrier do since AT&amp;T said they won&#8217;t have MMS ready for the iPhone because of their own database ineptitude.</p>
<p>Multiple devices and OS&#8217;es supported by one app store will be the most fragmented and useless POS ever.</p>
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		<title>By: JustDon</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/13/verizons-own-app-store-to-launch-too-late-and-for-no-good-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-444911</link>
		<dc:creator>JustDon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing how quickly one little story was able to move me from looking forward to a new Verizon Android or Blackberry phone later this year to counting down the days until my Verizon contract is up so I can go look at AT&amp;T or T-Mobile.

A model of efficiency for that announcement - assuming the intent was to drive their good customers away...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing how quickly one little story was able to move me from looking forward to a new Verizon Android or Blackberry phone later this year to counting down the days until my Verizon contract is up so I can go look at AT&amp;T or T-Mobile.</p>
<p>A model of efficiency for that announcement &#8211; assuming the intent was to drive their good customers away&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: red014</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/13/verizons-own-app-store-to-launch-too-late-and-for-no-good-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-444910</link>
		<dc:creator>red014</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind... I read the (f)actual story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind&#8230; I read the (f)actual story.</p>
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		<title>By: red014</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/13/verizons-own-app-store-to-launch-too-late-and-for-no-good-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-444909</link>
		<dc:creator>red014</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t VZW kinda pioneer the mobile app store idea with Get It Now?  Granted it sucked, but I&#039;m pretty sure its been out forever.  And what the hell is going to be different about this one anyways?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t VZW kinda pioneer the mobile app store idea with Get It Now?  Granted it sucked, but I&#8217;m pretty sure its been out forever.  And what the hell is going to be different about this one anyways?</p>
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		<title>By: OEB</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/13/verizons-own-app-store-to-launch-too-late-and-for-no-good-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-444900</link>
		<dc:creator>OEB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was beautifully harsh.  This was a complete pleasure to read.  I hope Ivan Seidenberg reads it so that we can hear his next conspiracy theory.  Or perhaps maybe this time he will STFU and learn something he didn&#039;t in the Pace school of business...  I guess they never told him not to turn down Apple&#039;s iphone deal when he was earning his useless Masters degree.  Seriously, how to goofballs like this become heads of multi billion dollar companies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was beautifully harsh.  This was a complete pleasure to read.  I hope Ivan Seidenberg reads it so that we can hear his next conspiracy theory.  Or perhaps maybe this time he will STFU and learn something he didn&#8217;t in the Pace school of business&#8230;  I guess they never told him not to turn down Apple&#8217;s iphone deal when he was earning his useless Masters degree.  Seriously, how to goofballs like this become heads of multi billion dollar companies?</p>
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		<title>By: dnndev</title>
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		<dc:creator>dnndev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hate verizon - going to cancel my subscription at the end of the month, switching to sprint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hate verizon &#8211; going to cancel my subscription at the end of the month, switching to sprint.</p>
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