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	<title>Comments on: Is the iPhone causing Apple to lose the plot?</title>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446179</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@hybrid-kernel: well, yes of f*cking course capitalism is the root of the problem. because people here talking about the &quot;tyranny&quot; of a company, which is supposed to be making money SERVING people and which produces items that have no vital importance in a person&#039;s life.

did it ever occur to anyone that it&#039;s purely optional to use low-quality gimmicky toys that don&#039;t wholly belong to the consumer even after they&#039;re being PAID FOR?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@hybrid-kernel: well, yes of f*cking course capitalism is the root of the problem. because people here talking about the &#8220;tyranny&#8221; of a company, which is supposed to be making money SERVING people and which produces items that have no vital importance in a person&#8217;s life.</p>
<p>did it ever occur to anyone that it&#8217;s purely optional to use low-quality gimmicky toys that don&#8217;t wholly belong to the consumer even after they&#8217;re being PAID FOR?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Burns Weed</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-2/#comment-446107</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Burns Weed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 03:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You call AT&amp;T incompetent then use wired and slashdot to back up your stance on a technology of which you obviously haven&#039;t even the most basic understanding. You have just redefined the meaning of incompetence. Wired and slashdot are hardly the go to source for technology facts, they are fluffy tech-light wannabe geek style image sources. You should learn your shit before you mouth off like a drunken sailor. Your post shows a confidence which is sadly back only with ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You call AT&amp;T incompetent then use wired and slashdot to back up your stance on a technology of which you obviously haven&#8217;t even the most basic understanding. You have just redefined the meaning of incompetence. Wired and slashdot are hardly the go to source for technology facts, they are fluffy tech-light wannabe geek style image sources. You should learn your shit before you mouth off like a drunken sailor. Your post shows a confidence which is sadly back only with ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: Anton</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446104</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 02:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d suggest as an Austrlian, the only reason it&#039;s &quot;legal&quot; is because Apple doesn&#039;t care about the statistically insignificant population here. When looking at &quot;chipping&quot; consoles, the country is constantly flip-flopping the legality.

I would expect that in fact it&#039;s not legal here - just as it&#039;s not legal to use an imported phone - any modification means it hasn&#039;t been verified by our communications board. It&#039;s not &quot;illegal&quot; because no one has pressed the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d suggest as an Austrlian, the only reason it&#8217;s &#8220;legal&#8221; is because Apple doesn&#8217;t care about the statistically insignificant population here. When looking at &#8220;chipping&#8221; consoles, the country is constantly flip-flopping the legality.</p>
<p>I would expect that in fact it&#8217;s not legal here &#8211; just as it&#8217;s not legal to use an imported phone &#8211; any modification means it hasn&#8217;t been verified by our communications board. It&#8217;s not &#8220;illegal&#8221; because no one has pressed the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Benedikt R.</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-2/#comment-446086</link>
		<dc:creator>Benedikt R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the moment, I am pretty confident with the functionallity of my iPhone. There&#039;s nothing that really bothers me.

Furthermore I didn&#039;t need to jailbreak my phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the moment, I am pretty confident with the functionallity of my iPhone. There&#8217;s nothing that really bothers me.</p>
<p>Furthermore I didn&#8217;t need to jailbreak my phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Philscbx</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-2/#comment-446084</link>
		<dc:creator>Philscbx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have all original cases to Metallica  Berkeley Community Theater. No Skips, No Pops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have all original cases to Metallica  Berkeley Community Theater. No Skips, No Pops.</p>
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		<title>By: Philscbx</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-2/#comment-446083</link>
		<dc:creator>Philscbx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything Apple the last five years from MacPro including iPhone is in my space.

Here&#039;s simply why the claim is false.

The terrorists need the towers to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything Apple the last five years from MacPro including iPhone is in my space.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s simply why the claim is false.</p>
<p>The terrorists need the towers to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuju</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446082</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael Long: The whole idea of Jailbreaking the OS is not to steal the apps, but rather to allow apps that were declined or are restricted by Apple.  As a Blackberry user, there are multiple app stores I can download from.  However, most apps are tied to a BlackBerry pin and each unlock code is specific to that pin.  Apple just chooses to keep everything for themselves.  

BTW, what really bugs me about the iPhone is that it can&#039;t be unlocked without a flashing the baseband.  If I buy a phone, I&#039;d like to use it after I switch services.  The iPhone is a disposable device because after you&#039;re done with it, you simply throw it away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael Long: The whole idea of Jailbreaking the OS is not to steal the apps, but rather to allow apps that were declined or are restricted by Apple.  As a Blackberry user, there are multiple app stores I can download from.  However, most apps are tied to a BlackBerry pin and each unlock code is specific to that pin.  Apple just chooses to keep everything for themselves.  </p>
<p>BTW, what really bugs me about the iPhone is that it can&#8217;t be unlocked without a flashing the baseband.  If I buy a phone, I&#8217;d like to use it after I switch services.  The iPhone is a disposable device because after you&#8217;re done with it, you simply throw it away.</p>
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		<title>By: Hillary</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-2/#comment-446063</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wired took the quote completely out of context of the docket (that pdf file that was quoted from on wired&#039;s own article). 

Not to mention that it is a MONSTROUS jump from Apple saying that hackers could cause a lot of problems, to saying that apple said that terrorists will use their jailbroken phones as remote detonators via a crashed AT&amp;T tower. 

Apple stated the obvious and does make them weak when using that in an argument. When you read the whole docket, it wasn&#039;t the sole basis of their argument; hell it wasn&#039;t more than the small blurb that was included here. (It&#039;s located on page 12 in the 3rd paragraph if you need help finding it.)

And FYI this docket was questions that were asked of Apple by the US Copyright Office. Apple answered the questions citing cases and reasoning as to why they have a right to protect an defending their operating system from copyright infringement since they are the owners. iPhone users are simply licensees of the OS and upon purchase of the iPhone we agree not to alter the OS.

It can&#039;t be had both ways - you can&#039;t read between the lines and then not read the entire story. 

So how many Metallica fans are still out there??? I betcha you still illegally download their music...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wired took the quote completely out of context of the docket (that pdf file that was quoted from on wired&#8217;s own article). </p>
<p>Not to mention that it is a MONSTROUS jump from Apple saying that hackers could cause a lot of problems, to saying that apple said that terrorists will use their jailbroken phones as remote detonators via a crashed AT&amp;T tower. </p>
<p>Apple stated the obvious and does make them weak when using that in an argument. When you read the whole docket, it wasn&#8217;t the sole basis of their argument; hell it wasn&#8217;t more than the small blurb that was included here. (It&#8217;s located on page 12 in the 3rd paragraph if you need help finding it.)</p>
<p>And FYI this docket was questions that were asked of Apple by the US Copyright Office. Apple answered the questions citing cases and reasoning as to why they have a right to protect an defending their operating system from copyright infringement since they are the owners. iPhone users are simply licensees of the OS and upon purchase of the iPhone we agree not to alter the OS.</p>
<p>It can&#8217;t be had both ways &#8211; you can&#8217;t read between the lines and then not read the entire story. </p>
<p>So how many Metallica fans are still out there??? I betcha you still illegally download their music&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pedalpete</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-2/#comment-446061</link>
		<dc:creator>pedalpete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it strange that Apple recognized that the strength in the ipod was to not try and shove their own format down our throat, but to tease users away from mp3 format with the experience from the iTunes music store.

Now, they seem to be relying on protectionist measures to try and lock everybody into their store when really the store experience should be what is bringing people there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it strange that Apple recognized that the strength in the ipod was to not try and shove their own format down our throat, but to tease users away from mp3 format with the experience from the iTunes music store.</p>
<p>Now, they seem to be relying on protectionist measures to try and lock everybody into their store when really the store experience should be what is bringing people there.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446057</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you all wasting your time with?

I think there is one comment here from someone who may know about cell towers and their baseband processors.

Apple are covering themselves against liability. They may also benefit commercially from this. They would be stupid and negligent not to do this. If you were in a responsible position in Apple and didn&#039;t do this, you would be sacked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you all wasting your time with?</p>
<p>I think there is one comment here from someone who may know about cell towers and their baseband processors.</p>
<p>Apple are covering themselves against liability. They may also benefit commercially from this. They would be stupid and negligent not to do this. If you were in a responsible position in Apple and didn&#8217;t do this, you would be sacked.</p>
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		<title>By: mertz</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446056</link>
		<dc:creator>mertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*these</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*these</p>
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		<title>By: mertz</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446055</link>
		<dc:creator>mertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thes are my favourite parts from the wired post:

&#039;The Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 says “no person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title.” But under the law, every three years the Librarian of Congress and the Copyright Office must consider the public’s requests for exemptions to that anti-circumvention language.

Apple also claimed that jailbreaking would pave the way for hackers to alter the Exclusive Chip Identification number that identified the phone to the cell tower, which could enable calls to be made anonymously. Apple said “this would be desirable to drug dealers.”&#039;

it&#039;s good to know people has a voice, apple is trying to protect itself (despite the stupid language) and that is good for i guess it&#039;s investors although i don&#039;t agree with the &quot;closed&quot; concept, and BEST of all: Apple IS Looking OUT for YOU the customer. people fail to realize that national security is at risk, and apple will be at the fore trying to convince the law to work for you. what a bunch of BS. lol. apple iphone users apparently are law breakers, a threat to national security, and drug dealers. who knew apple was so well versed in pissing off customers. i thought everyone was on the bandwagon. don&#039;t get me wrong i like apple enough...mostly the designers, but i&#039;m disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thes are my favourite parts from the wired post:</p>
<p>&#8216;The Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 says “no person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title.” But under the law, every three years the Librarian of Congress and the Copyright Office must consider the public’s requests for exemptions to that anti-circumvention language.</p>
<p>Apple also claimed that jailbreaking would pave the way for hackers to alter the Exclusive Chip Identification number that identified the phone to the cell tower, which could enable calls to be made anonymously. Apple said “this would be desirable to drug dealers.”&#8217;</p>
<p>it&#8217;s good to know people has a voice, apple is trying to protect itself (despite the stupid language) and that is good for i guess it&#8217;s investors although i don&#8217;t agree with the &#8220;closed&#8221; concept, and BEST of all: Apple IS Looking OUT for YOU the customer. people fail to realize that national security is at risk, and apple will be at the fore trying to convince the law to work for you. what a bunch of BS. lol. apple iphone users apparently are law breakers, a threat to national security, and drug dealers. who knew apple was so well versed in pissing off customers. i thought everyone was on the bandwagon. don&#8217;t get me wrong i like apple enough&#8230;mostly the designers, but i&#8217;m disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: JackSM</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446054</link>
		<dc:creator>JackSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The photographic proof would just be &#039;shopped.  And I&#039;d know, I&#039;ve seen quite a few shops in my time....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The photographic proof would just be &#8217;shopped.  And I&#8217;d know, I&#8217;ve seen quite a few shops in my time&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mertz</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446053</link>
		<dc:creator>mertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t think the iphone is the terrorist&#039;s phone of choice. amazingly they have all kinds of tech in impovrished countries and in the caves these &quot;freedom&quot; fighters inhabit...-_-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think the iphone is the terrorist&#8217;s phone of choice. amazingly they have all kinds of tech in impovrished countries and in the caves these &#8220;freedom&#8221; fighters inhabit&#8230;-_-</p>
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		<title>By: mertz</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446052</link>
		<dc:creator>mertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what do you think about the large potential of users using &quot;jailbreak&quot; methods that can be &quot;compromised&quot; that would lead to tower failures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what do you think about the large potential of users using &#8220;jailbreak&#8221; methods that can be &#8220;compromised&#8221; that would lead to tower failures.</p>
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		<title>By: mertz</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446051</link>
		<dc:creator>mertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>true. you just pointed out why i shouldn&#039;t be interested in this. i&#039;m being manipulated. it&#039;s a publicity stunt.

lol. moral &amp; business do not go hand in hand, and apple has a right to protect itself...which makes you think that other companies would support apple&#039;s same line of reasoning. 

this legal document is bs. people are breaking laws left right and center, legal or otherwise. they should have paid the lawyers more money to have said this a different way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true. you just pointed out why i shouldn&#8217;t be interested in this. i&#8217;m being manipulated. it&#8217;s a publicity stunt.</p>
<p>lol. moral &amp; business do not go hand in hand, and apple has a right to protect itself&#8230;which makes you think that other companies would support apple&#8217;s same line of reasoning. </p>
<p>this legal document is bs. people are breaking laws left right and center, legal or otherwise. they should have paid the lawyers more money to have said this a different way.</p>
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		<title>By: NICKNOWSKY</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446050</link>
		<dc:creator>NICKNOWSKY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about my jailbroken iPod Touch 2G, Is that gonnabe a National Security Threat. i mean it ISNT even a PHONE, this is CRAZy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about my jailbroken iPod Touch 2G, Is that gonnabe a National Security Threat. i mean it ISNT even a PHONE, this is CRAZy</p>
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		<title>By: mertz</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446047</link>
		<dc:creator>mertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah but we know the legal system is also corrupt. i think these lawyers are just doing what they are told for the $$$. it&#039;s nice being a lawyer. i want to be that one day but i don&#039;t want to have to sell my soul. moral nowadays is dead anyways. i am not surprised tech companies have gone the evil route. $$$ talks everwhere in this world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah but we know the legal system is also corrupt. i think these lawyers are just doing what they are told for the $$$. it&#8217;s nice being a lawyer. i want to be that one day but i don&#8217;t want to have to sell my soul. moral nowadays is dead anyways. i am not surprised tech companies have gone the evil route. $$$ talks everwhere in this world.</p>
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		<title>By: mertz</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446045</link>
		<dc:creator>mertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wouldn&#039;t you think that if all the other companies were as concerned as apple they would all be speaking up about this or backing apple...or will we just see the apocalypse when it happens. i mean if this was an issue wouldn&#039;t MS be all over this...or are they waiting for apple to make their concerns known first before everyone else falls into the ditch. not only does this look bad for apple, but if it was true the US would be in some big doodoo. so who&#039;s the stupid one here because i thought this whole legal thing was a big bunch of garbage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wouldn&#8217;t you think that if all the other companies were as concerned as apple they would all be speaking up about this or backing apple&#8230;or will we just see the apocalypse when it happens. i mean if this was an issue wouldn&#8217;t MS be all over this&#8230;or are they waiting for apple to make their concerns known first before everyone else falls into the ditch. not only does this look bad for apple, but if it was true the US would be in some big doodoo. so who&#8217;s the stupid one here because i thought this whole legal thing was a big bunch of garbage.</p>
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		<title>By: mertz</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446044</link>
		<dc:creator>mertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and it&#039;s completely ironic that at&amp;fail is pointing things right back to apple&#039;s corner when at&amp;fail is also at the core of the disaster.

&quot;core&quot; was referring back to previous article and a play on words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and it&#8217;s completely ironic that at&amp;fail is pointing things right back to apple&#8217;s corner when at&amp;fail is also at the core of the disaster.</p>
<p>&#8220;core&#8221; was referring back to previous article and a play on words.</p>
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		<title>By: mertz</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446043</link>
		<dc:creator>mertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how do you know tc commenters wear undies?

anyways it&#039;s both at&amp;fail and apples fault, but i guess it&#039;s interesting to see at&amp;t standing up for itself and pointing the finger right back to the core of the problem. i mean if apple doesn&#039;t want to be with st&amp;fail then they don&#039;t have to. people thought verizon was bad...and now this...i guess the future carrier has no chance. i agree with ending exclusitivity. it&#039;s all a learning experience though...hopefully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how do you know tc commenters wear undies?</p>
<p>anyways it&#8217;s both at&amp;fail and apples fault, but i guess it&#8217;s interesting to see at&amp;t standing up for itself and pointing the finger right back to the core of the problem. i mean if apple doesn&#8217;t want to be with st&amp;fail then they don&#8217;t have to. people thought verizon was bad&#8230;and now this&#8230;i guess the future carrier has no chance. i agree with ending exclusitivity. it&#8217;s all a learning experience though&#8230;hopefully.</p>
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		<title>By: mertz</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446039</link>
		<dc:creator>mertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol. i just read that and realized he/she said the same thing in the iphone at&amp;fail threads and was debunked. sheesh. people are such ***** sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol. i just read that and realized he/she said the same thing in the iphone at&amp;fail threads and was debunked. sheesh. people are such ***** sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: mertz</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446038</link>
		<dc:creator>mertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol. it shows right.

actually if i was an apple fan, although noticing that the apple legal team is trying to force an issue by being preemptive and hoping that no one actually understand anything, i would give apple a hand for trying to protect their apple store and the developers they work with...but this is complete bs and even if there are good intentions behind this (which i doubt) i think they did themselves a disservice. i&#039;m going to read the legal doc and maybe it&#039;ll shed some light on why people are paid to be stupid. i mean i can be hired for no money if that&#039;s the qualification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol. it shows right.</p>
<p>actually if i was an apple fan, although noticing that the apple legal team is trying to force an issue by being preemptive and hoping that no one actually understand anything, i would give apple a hand for trying to protect their apple store and the developers they work with&#8230;but this is complete bs and even if there are good intentions behind this (which i doubt) i think they did themselves a disservice. i&#8217;m going to read the legal doc and maybe it&#8217;ll shed some light on why people are paid to be stupid. i mean i can be hired for no money if that&#8217;s the qualification.</p>
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		<title>By: mertz</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446035</link>
		<dc:creator>mertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; because people installing whatever apps they wanted could bring down the network.&quot;


wait so they&#039;ve used this reasoning before?????!!!! sh*t. i was about to give that 45 page pdf a chance because i wanted to torture myself but also get a good laugh, and now i don&#039;t think i will be reading that right now (maybe later)...have they used this reasoning more than a couple times? anyone speak apple-legal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; because people installing whatever apps they wanted could bring down the network.&#8221;</p>
<p>wait so they&#8217;ve used this reasoning before?????!!!! sh*t. i was about to give that 45 page pdf a chance because i wanted to torture myself but also get a good laugh, and now i don&#8217;t think i will be reading that right now (maybe later)&#8230;have they used this reasoning more than a couple times? anyone speak apple-legal?</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="551968797">Ray Ray Angel</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/07/29/is-the-iphone-causing-apple-to-lose-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-446034</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="551968797">Ray Ray Angel</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know the network problems are NOT Apple. The issue is though that Apple is aware of the problems AT&amp;T has and yet they don&#039;t crack down on them. Why aren&#039;t the other carriers around the world having these issues?

Oh yeah because they aren&#039;t a shitty service like AT&amp;T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the network problems are NOT Apple. The issue is though that Apple is aware of the problems AT&amp;T has and yet they don&#8217;t crack down on them. Why aren&#8217;t the other carriers around the world having these issues?</p>
<p>Oh yeah because they aren&#8217;t a shitty service like AT&amp;T.</p>
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