Comments on: Playmesh Tops the Charts with #1 Game on the iPhone: iFarm downloaded 1 million times in 10 days http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/ All About Mobile 2.0 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:05:29 +0000 hourly 1 By: SirBumalot http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-464360 SirBumalot Fri, 15 Jan 2010 03:44:46 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-464360 They did create a wonderful game that they set up no protection from hackers, no customer service for those that spend money on their apps and created out of laziness a banding system for their players. I truly hope apple does not allow their “premium” apps to come out. If Playmess can not even manage their games now with paying customers already, what makes you think that they will be able to do any better with those? Besides, all their games are the same game with different pictures. That really creative. They brag that they only have five employees, if they can not respond to same email sent over 500 times, what makes you think that they’ll help you with anything. They hide in lies. Read their tweets, JOKE. Google their name and all you get is bad reviews and customers just wanting a response on an email or question. If you look at their own reviews and comments, you’d think they were the best thing since Jesus himself. They did create a wonderful game that they set up no protection from hackers, no customer service for those that spend money on their apps and created out of laziness a banding system for their players. I truly hope apple does not allow their “premium” apps to come out. If Playmess can not even manage their games now with paying customers already, what makes you think that they will be able to do any better with those? Besides, all their games are the same game with different pictures. That really creative. They brag that they only have five employees, if they can not respond to same email sent over 500 times, what makes you think that they’ll help you with anything. They hide in lies. Read their tweets, JOKE. Google their name and all you get is bad reviews and customers just wanting a response on an email or question. If you look at their own reviews and comments, you’d think they were the best thing since Jesus himself.

]]> By: Doc http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-462179 Doc Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:48:11 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-462179 just a test for the google slap: http://diekirscheaufdersahne.blogspot.com/ just a test for the google slap:
http://diekirscheaufdersahne.blogspot.com/

]]> By: Car games http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458840 Car games Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:23:26 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458840 I am interested to have more iPhone games. please give me the links. I am interested to have more iPhone games. please give me the links.

]]> By: Car games http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458839 Car games Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:22:08 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458839 I have a iPhone. I would like to have more iPhone games. I have a iPhone. I would like to have more iPhone games.

]]> By: Montoya http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458802 Montoya Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:11:07 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458802 "but because they’ve got no venture funding and no marketing or PR representatives, they aren’t in the spotlight quite as often" Hear, hear. Let's rephrase this: "but because they have no VCs to call in favors at the media outlets or pay TechCrunch for articles, and they don't waste their money on overpriced PR reps, they aren't in the spotlight as often (however, users don't give a crap how many times you get mentioned on TechCrunch, as evidenced by how successful they are)" “but because they’ve got no venture funding and no marketing or PR representatives, they aren’t in the spotlight quite as often”

Hear, hear. Let’s rephrase this:

“but because they have no VCs to call in favors at the media outlets or pay TechCrunch for articles, and they don’t waste their money on overpriced PR reps, they aren’t in the spotlight as often (however, users don’t give a crap how many times you get mentioned on TechCrunch, as evidenced by how successful they are)”

]]> By: Montoya http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458801 Montoya Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:07:42 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458801 I think he meant "game." I think he meant “game.”

]]> By: Montoya http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458800 Montoya Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:05:29 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458800 Since Zynga got rich, bitch. Sorry, I just had to rhyme that. But it's true. Since Zynga got rich, bitch.

Sorry, I just had to rhyme that. But it’s true.

]]> By: Kostas http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458798 Kostas Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:46:42 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458798 "I haven’t heard of an app that’s done better on the App Store." Well, iSteam had more than 1 million downloads in 7 days :) http://isteam.co.uk/2009/01/07/isteam-dominates-hits-1-million-downloads-in-its-first-week/ “I haven’t heard of an app that’s done better on the App Store.”

Well, iSteam had more than 1 million downloads in 7 days :)

http://isteam.co.uk/2009/01/07/isteam-dominates-hits-1-million-downloads-in-its-first-week/

]]> By: Emily http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458786 Emily Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:10:06 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458786 Cut that in half. The article says Playmesh has 5 million users and 10 million downloads. Cut that in half. The article says Playmesh has 5 million users and 10 million downloads.

]]> By: Vezquex http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458771 Vezquex Tue, 01 Dec 2009 10:07:25 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458771 Many are succeeding at it. It is fairly difficult to code the right thing at the right time, though. Most people choose the steady job over a slim chance at real success. Many are succeeding at it. It is fairly difficult to code the right thing at the right time, though. Most people choose the steady job over a slim chance at real success.

]]> By: MC http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458752 MC Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:27:23 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458752 Half a million dollars a year net income each? I'm sure the average income is considerably less than that, so if what they do is simply ripping off what someone else has already done then why doesn't everyone do the same and reap the same income? Half a million dollars a year net income each? I’m sure the average income is considerably less than that, so if what they do is simply ripping off what someone else has already done then why doesn’t everyone do the same and reap the same income?

]]> By: cliq http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458751 cliq Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:22:48 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458751 But all of the founders are around 23. and if their business is growing, then... But all of the founders are around 23. and if their business is growing, then…

]]> By: cliq http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458750 cliq Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:21:35 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458750 but all of the founders are 23. and if their business is growing, then... but all of the founders are 23. and if their business is growing, then…

]]> By: Noah http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458748 Noah Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:27:37 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458748 I will never play another PlayMesh game again in my life after the fiasco which was iMafia (and iRace, iVampire, iRace Miami, iMafia NYC, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.) I will never play another PlayMesh game again in my life after the fiasco which was iMafia (and iRace, iVampire, iRace Miami, iMafia NYC, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.)

]]> By: Gagan Biyani http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458743 Gagan Biyani Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:10:09 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458743 That's not how it works. As mentioned above, Playmesh makes money through advertising and selling virtual goods. Neither of these occur through the App Store infrastructure, so their revenues are not being tracked through the traditional "Top Grossing" list. Their virtual goods are somewhat tracked through the fact that they sell apps with (for example) "50 Playmesh Points" - however, they offer so many varieties, that it would never show up on Apple's lists. Apple's lists don't aggregate multiple iterations of the same app into one. This may also explain why Apple hasn't (to my knowledge) featured them a whole lot, since Apple tends to (understandably) prefer apps that bring in revenue for Apple. That’s not how it works. As mentioned above, Playmesh makes money through advertising and selling virtual goods. Neither of these occur through the App Store infrastructure, so their revenues are not being tracked through the traditional “Top Grossing” list.

Their virtual goods are somewhat tracked through the fact that they sell apps with (for example) “50 Playmesh Points” – however, they offer so many varieties, that it would never show up on Apple’s lists. Apple’s lists don’t aggregate multiple iterations of the same app into one.

This may also explain why Apple hasn’t (to my knowledge) featured them a whole lot, since Apple tends to (understandably) prefer apps that bring in revenue for Apple.

]]> By: jason http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458741 jason Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:43:26 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458741 Actually $0.5 - $1.00 per user (probably inflated). So let's say $0.75. $0.75 x 10M x 0.70 (30% apple tax) = $5.25 million Divide by 5 people, then deduct costs and taxes, comes to about $500k / person, about the yearly net pay of a mid-level google employee. Actually $0.5 – $1.00 per user (probably inflated). So let’s say $0.75.

$0.75 x 10M x 0.70 (30% apple tax) = $5.25 million

Divide by 5 people, then deduct costs and taxes, comes to about $500k / person, about the yearly net pay of a mid-level google employee.

]]> By: Chris Garrett http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458739 Chris Garrett Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:39:39 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458739 They're doing well because the owners of the original games did a bad job creating and marketing the iPhone versions of their own games. If they were a "complete" rip-off then Farmville would win because of its marketing clout. Likewise, Hasbro should be walking away with the best Connect 4 and Boggle games, but instead they are creating mediocre versions of their branded games while indie game developers give them strong competition with much better versions. Very few computer games are completely original - the industry is all about taking ideas and expanding on them. Unless the game is patented, other game developers have every right to create so-called "rip-offs". They’re doing well because the owners of the original games did a bad job creating and marketing the iPhone versions of their own games. If they were a “complete” rip-off then Farmville would win because of its marketing clout.

Likewise, Hasbro should be walking away with the best Connect 4 and Boggle games, but instead they are creating mediocre versions of their branded games while indie game developers give them strong competition with much better versions.

Very few computer games are completely original – the industry is all about taking ideas and expanding on them. Unless the game is patented, other game developers have every right to create so-called “rip-offs”.

]]> By: Chem http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458738 Chem Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:30:55 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458738 I am calling BS, they are not in the top grossing list anywhere. If they would doing those numbers they would be in the top ten of top grossing. I am calling BS, they are not in the top grossing list anywhere.

If they would doing those numbers they would be in the top ten of top grossing.

]]> By: Laura Homer http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458733 Laura Homer Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:56:04 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458733 Rip offs, deffinitely. However the fact that they managed to become so successfull with no funding and with only 5 people is quite impressive. Rip offs, deffinitely. However the fact that they managed to become so successfull with no funding and with only 5 people is quite impressive.

]]> By: Gagan Biyani http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458728 Gagan Biyani Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:17:44 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458728 Obviously, the fact that they take ideas from others is not ideal - but social gaming is all about execution. They all steal each other's games. (And of course, so do tons and tons of other great companies). The reason why they're a great story is because they've beaten out the extremely established well-funded social gaming behemoths by developing execution expertise on the iPhone. They are 5 employees and completely un-funded; I'd call that impressive. Obviously, the fact that they take ideas from others is not ideal – but social gaming is all about execution. They all steal each other’s games. (And of course, so do tons and tons of other great companies). The reason why they’re a great story is because they’ve beaten out the extremely established well-funded social gaming behemoths by developing execution expertise on the iPhone. They are 5 employees and completely un-funded; I’d call that impressive.

]]> By: Adrian http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458726 Adrian Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:56:58 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458726 Why are people so stuck on 'innovation'? The point is to make money, you do that by fulfilling a need. If the need is there and you can cover it easily with tested and true methods, what's the point of innovating? Oh man, yet another round wheel? It's only been a few thousand years, /bored! Why are people so stuck on ‘innovation’? The point is to make money, you do that by fulfilling a need. If the need is there and you can cover it easily with tested and true methods, what’s the point of innovating?

Oh man, yet another round wheel? It’s only been a few thousand years, /bored!

]]> By: PennyLog http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458721 PennyLog Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:32:28 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458721 "$0.50-$1 Average Revenue per User" WOW very impressive!!! “$0.50-$1 Average Revenue per User” WOW very impressive!!!

]]> By: Brian http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458720 Brian Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:24:11 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458720 It sounds like they just take the most popular online games and duplicate them for the iPhone App Store. iMafia and iFarm - come on, aren't they just Mafia Wars and Farmville rehashed? This is the kind of "innovation" you think Silicon Valley needs to indulge in? At least bring something new to the table in copy-cat releases, which is generally how successful console games are done. It sounds like they just take the most popular online games and duplicate them for the iPhone App Store. iMafia and iFarm – come on, aren’t they just Mafia Wars and Farmville rehashed? This is the kind of “innovation” you think Silicon Valley needs to indulge in? At least bring something new to the table in copy-cat releases, which is generally how successful console games are done.

]]> By: David Mulder http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458719 David Mulder Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:58:24 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458719 And FarmVille is a 100% copy of farm land. And FarmVille is a 100% copy of farm land.

]]> By: Zach http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/11/30/playmesh-tops-the-charts-with-1-game-on-the-iphone-ifarm-downloaded-1-million-times-in-10-days/comment-page-1/#comment-458718 Zach Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:56:05 +0000 http://www.mobilecrunch.com/?p=23460#comment-458718 Umm, you've never heard of Microsoft then? Umm, you’ve never heard of Microsoft then?

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